Fourth Linguifex Relay/Van - Revision history

Chrysophylax: /* Notes */

2015-07-13T09:58:47Z

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	*:''mak, pare ras, tanire [] mar vańe tavi'' → “Mark, red is he, taller is [he] than taller is David”		*:''mak, pare ras, tanire [] mar vańe tavi'' → “Mark, red is he, taller is [he] than taller is David”
	*''no-'' is variously translated as “great, many, much, very, really, truly” depending on context and is a general intensifier which attaches to any word.		*''no-'' is variously translated as “great, many, much, very, really, truly” depending on context and is a general intensifier which attaches to any word.
	*The directive enclitic ''=e'' habitually works several jobs including doing night shifts as an object marker for relclauses, a benefactive/dative marker here and there on saturdays, all this beyond being a typical 'directive'. Oh, right, let's not forget, sometimes it works a bit like a translative, (NP NP=e), e.g. ''mak nansi=e'' “Mark became Nancy”. It attaches to phrases.		*The directive enclitic '''=e''' habitually works several jobs including doing night shifts as an object marker for relclauses, a benefactive/dative marker here and there on saturdays, all this beyond being a typical 'directive'. Oh, right, let's not forget, sometimes it works a bit like a translative, (NP NP=e), e.g. ''mak nansi=e'' “Mark became Nancy”. It attaches to phrases.

	==Bonus==		==Bonus==

Chrysophylax: /* Notes */

2015-07-13T09:58:37Z

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	Time is not* of essence in Van. Context and adverbs may be of help but aren't really considered necessary most of the time (ha!).		Time is not* of essence in Van. Context and adverbs may be of help but aren't really considered necessary most of the time (ha!).
	*A construction approaching a polite imperative is formed using the 2P and the prefix ''ni-'' “perhaps” on the verb.		*A construction approaching a polite imperative is formed using the 2P and the prefix ''ni-'' “perhaps” on the verb.
	*A “relative” clause follows its (pro-)nominal head and is always offset with comma. When they are related to the object of the main clause they are marked with the directive '''-e'''.		*A “relative” clause follows its (pro-)nominal head and is always offset with comma. When they are related to the object of the main clause they are marked with the directive '''=e'''.
	*:''mak, karesi ras, lana ras ha-tok.'' “Mark, a bit old is he, cooks he the chicken.” → ''mak, karesi ras, lana ras ha-tok, laja rase.'' “Mark, a bit old is he, cooks he the chicken, sings he;{{sc\|dir}}” where the second relative clause matches with ''ha-tok'', i.e. it's the chicken who sings and not Mark.		*:''mak, karesi ras, lana ras ha-tok.'' “Mark, a bit old is he, cooks he the chicken.” → ''mak, karesi ras, lana ras ha-tok, laja rase.'' “Mark, a bit old is he, cooks he the chicken, sings he;{{sc\|dir}}” where the second relative clause matches with ''ha-tok'', i.e. it's the chicken who sings and not Mark.
	*When the verb in a relative clause is stative and the main clause verb too, the main clause drops the common pronoun.		*When the verb in a relative clause is stative and the main clause verb too, the main clause drops the common pronoun.

Chrysophylax: /* Notes */

2015-07-13T09:58:24Z

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	Time is not* of essence in Van. Context and adverbs may be of help but aren't really considered necessary most of the time (ha!).		Time is not* of essence in Van. Context and adverbs may be of help but aren't really considered necessary most of the time (ha!).
	*A construction approaching a polite imperative is formed using the 2P and the prefix ''ni-'' “perhaps” on the verb.		*A construction approaching a polite imperative is formed using the 2P and the prefix ''ni-'' “perhaps” on the verb.
	*A “relative” clause follows its (pro-)nominal head and is always offset with comma. When they are related to the object of the main ~~sentence~~ they are marked with the directive '''-e'''.		*A “relative” clause follows its (pro-)nominal head and is always offset with comma. When they are related to the object of the main clause they are marked with the directive '''-e'''.
	*:''mak, karesi ras, lana ras ha-tok.'' “Mark, a bit old is he, cooks he the chicken.” → ''mak, karesi ras, lana ras ha-tok, laja rase.'' “Mark, a bit old is he, cooks he the chicken, sings he;{{sc\|dir}}” where the second relative clause matches with ''ha-tok'', i.e. it's the chicken who sings and not Mark.		*:''mak, karesi ras, lana ras ha-tok.'' “Mark, a bit old is he, cooks he the chicken.” → ''mak, karesi ras, lana ras ha-tok, laja rase.'' “Mark, a bit old is he, cooks he the chicken, sings he;{{sc\|dir}}” where the second relative clause matches with ''ha-tok'', i.e. it's the chicken who sings and not Mark.
	*When the verb in a relative clause is stative and the main clause verb too, the main clause drops the common pronoun.		*When the verb in a relative clause is stative and the main clause verb too, the main clause drops the common pronoun.

Chrysophylax: /* Notes */

2015-07-13T09:35:30Z

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	==Notes==		==Notes==
			*Almost everything is explained in the short article [[Van]]. Do take a peek.
	*Van is almost excludingly VSO with rare SVO.		*Van is almost excludingly VSO with rare SVO.
	Time is not* of essence in Van. Context and adverbs may be of help but aren't really considered necessary most of the time (ha!).		Time is not* of essence in Van. Context and adverbs may be of help but aren't really considered necessary most of the time (ha!).

Chrysophylax: /* Bonus */

2015-07-13T09:34:34Z

Bonus

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	*The diminutive infix ''<ri>'' is a recycled favourite from an old sketch.		*The diminutive infix ''<ri>'' is a recycled favourite from an old sketch.
	*''lisat'' and ''sataka'' looking similar as well? Well, yes, these are two related nouns: a ruler and "things-used-to-rule-with" (laws) formed on the common root ''√sat-'' “to govern, rule”!		*''lisat'' and ''sataka'' looking similar as well? Well, yes, these are two related nouns: a ruler and "things-used-to-rule-with" (laws) formed on the common root ''√sat-'' “to govern, rule”!
	*''√mar-'' is a bit of a dark joke, being borrowed from Latinate 'mort-' with the semantic shift of “dead” → “stiff” → “upright”.		*''√mar-'' is a bit of a dark joke, being borrowed from Latinate 'mort-' with the semantic shift of “dead” → “stiff” → “upright”~“just”.

Chrysophylax: /* Notes */ directive miss

2015-07-13T09:32:04Z

Notes: directive miss

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	*:''mak, pare ras, tanire [] mar vańe tavi'' → “Mark, red is he, taller is [he] than taller is David”		*:''mak, pare ras, tanire [] mar vańe tavi'' → “Mark, red is he, taller is [he] than taller is David”
	*''no-'' is variously translated as “great, many, much, very, really, truly” depending on context and is a general intensifier which attaches to any word.		*''no-'' is variously translated as “great, many, much, very, really, truly” depending on context and is a general intensifier which attaches to any word.
	*The directive enclitic ''=e'' habitually works several jobs including doing night shifts as an object marker for relclauses, a benefactive/dative marker here and there on saturdays, all this beyond being a typical 'directive'. It attaches to phrases.		*The directive enclitic ''=e'' habitually works several jobs including doing night shifts as an object marker for relclauses, a benefactive/dative marker here and there on saturdays, all this beyond being a typical 'directive'. Oh, right, let's not forget, sometimes it works a bit like a translative, (NP NP=e), e.g. ''mak nansi=e'' “Mark became Nancy”. It attaches to phrases.

	==Bonus==		==Bonus==

Chrysophylax: /* Notes */

2015-07-13T09:19:06Z

Notes

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	*:''mak, pare ras, tanire [] mar vańe tavi'' → “Mark, red is he, taller is [he] than taller is David”		*:''mak, pare ras, tanire [] mar vańe tavi'' → “Mark, red is he, taller is [he] than taller is David”
	*''no-'' is variously translated as “great, many, much, very, really, truly” depending on context and is a general intensifier which attaches to any word.		*''no-'' is variously translated as “great, many, much, very, really, truly” depending on context and is a general intensifier which attaches to any word.
	*The directive enclitic ''=e'' habitually works several jobs including doing night shifts as an object marker for relclauses, a benefactive/dative marker here, beyond being a typical 'directive'. It attaches to phrases.		*The directive enclitic ''=e'' habitually works several jobs including doing night shifts as an object marker for relclauses, a benefactive/dative marker here and there on saturdays, all this beyond being a typical 'directive'. It attaches to phrases.

	==Bonus==		==Bonus==

Chrysophylax: /* Notes */

2015-07-13T09:17:43Z

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	==Notes==		==Notes==
	*Van is almost excludingly VSO with rare SVO.		*Van is almost excludingly VSO with rare SVO.
	Time is not* of essence in Van.		Time is not* of essence in Van. Context and adverbs may be of help but aren't really considered necessary most of the time (ha!).
	*A construction approaching a polite imperative is formed using the 2P and the prefix ''ni-'' “perhaps” on the verb.		*A construction approaching a polite imperative is formed using the 2P and the prefix ''ni-'' “perhaps” on the verb.
	*A “relative” clause follows its (pro-)nominal head and is always offset with comma. When they are related to the object of the main sentence they are marked with the directive '''-e'''.		*A “relative” clause follows its (pro-)nominal head and is always offset with comma. When they are related to the object of the main sentence they are marked with the directive '''-e'''.

Chrysophylax: /* Notes */

2015-07-13T09:16:31Z

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	==Notes==		==Notes==
	*Van is almost excludingly VSO with rare SVO.		*Van is almost excludingly VSO with rare SVO.
			Time is not* of essence in Van.
	*A construction approaching a polite imperative is formed using the 2P and the prefix ''ni-'' “perhaps” on the verb.		*A construction approaching a polite imperative is formed using the 2P and the prefix ''ni-'' “perhaps” on the verb.
	*A “relative” clause follows its (pro-)nominal head and is always offset with comma. When they are related to the object of the main sentence they are marked with the directive '''-e'''.		*A “relative” clause follows its (pro-)nominal head and is always offset with comma. When they are related to the object of the main sentence they are marked with the directive '''-e'''.
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	*''no-'' is variously translated as “great, many, much, very, really, truly” depending on context and is a general intensifier which attaches to any word.		*''no-'' is variously translated as “great, many, much, very, really, truly” depending on context and is a general intensifier which attaches to any word.
	*The directive enclitic ''=e'' habitually works several jobs including doing night shifts as an object marker for relclauses, a benefactive/dative marker here, beyond being a typical 'directive'. It attaches to phrases.		*The directive enclitic ''=e'' habitually works several jobs including doing night shifts as an object marker for relclauses, a benefactive/dative marker here, beyond being a typical 'directive'. It attaches to phrases.


	==Bonus==		==Bonus==

Chrysophylax: /* Bonus */

2015-07-13T09:16:17Z

Bonus

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	*''vavaralas'' and ''varaske'' looking similar? That's because a mosaic in Van is a "a collection of torn things".		*''vavaralas'' and ''varaske'' looking similar? That's because a mosaic in Van is a "a collection of torn things/things you tear".
	*The diminutive infix ''<ri>'' is a recycled favourite from an old sketch.		*The diminutive infix ''<ri>'' is a recycled favourite from an old sketch.
	*''lisat'' and ''sataka'' looking similar as well? Well, yes, these are two related nouns: a ruler and "things-used-to-rule-with" (laws) formed on the common root ''√sat-'' “to govern, rule”!		*''lisat'' and ''sataka'' looking similar as well? Well, yes, these are two related nouns: a ruler and "things-used-to-rule-with" (laws) formed on the common root ''√sat-'' “to govern, rule”!
	*''√mar-'' is a bit of a dark joke, being borrowed from Latinate 'mort-' with the semantic shift of “dead” → “stiff” → “upright”.		*''√mar-'' is a bit of a dark joke, being borrowed from Latinate 'mort-' with the semantic shift of “dead” → “stiff” → “upright”.