Tergetian vernaculars - Revision history

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	In [[Eevo]], "'''Tergetian languages'''" (''Terjedib'' or ''łynøñ Terjed'') refers to naturally evolved vernacular descendants of Classical Tseer. This is ~~misleading~~, as		In [[Eevo]], "'''Tergetian languages'''" (''Terjedib'' or ''łynøñ Terjed'') refers to naturally evolved vernacular descendants of Classical Tseer. This is ironic, as Wen Dămea was called the Tergetian empire by some peoples in ancient times.

	== Common features ==		== Common features ==

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	== Common features ==		== Common features ==
	* AuxVOS, with V a verbal noun (from topic final word order in ~~CWdm~~)		* AuxVOS, with V a verbal noun (from topic final word order in Classical Tseer)
	* Verbal nouns treated ergatively like in Irish ("my love to/by-him" means "his love for me") [a Standard Average Talman feature, opposite of SAE or Hebrew/JBA]		* Verbal nouns treated ergatively like in Irish ("my love to/by-him" means "his love for me") [a Standard Average Talman feature, opposite of SAE or Hebrew/JBA]
	* Large but closed class of auxiliaries, e.g. for tense marking, or things like "marbeh lisloach" 'forgives often' (shared to some extent by Anbirese)		* Large but closed class of auxiliaries, e.g. for tense marking, or things like "marbeh lisloach" 'forgives often' (shared to some extent by Anbirese)
	* ~~As in Modern Tseer, marks~~ pluractionality by pluralizing the verbal noun		* Marks pluractionality by pluralizing the verbal noun
	* always using im- or iN- for plurals (this got into Modern Windermere)		* construct state marked by a reflex of the CTseer 3sg.m possessive pronoun ''in''
	* construct state marked by a reflex of the ~~CWdm~~ 3sg.m possessive pronoun ''in''		* Verb tenses work a lot like like in Jewish Babylonian Aramaic or Scottish Gaelic
	* Verb tenses work a lot like like in Jewish Babylonian Aramaic or ~~An Yidis~~
	** "in VN" or "on VN" for imperfective aspect unmarked for tense		** "in VN" or "on VN" for imperfective aspect unmarked for tense
	** "after VN" for perfective aspect		** "after VN" for perfective aspect
	** an auxiliary can be used to mark tense, which is relative to conjunctions like "before": "before (future aux)", "after (past aux)"		** an auxiliary can be used to mark tense, which is relative to conjunctions like "before": "before (future aux)", "after (past aux)"

IlL at 19:52, 22 April 2023

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	In [[Eevo]], "'''Tergetian languages'''" (''Terjedib'' or ''łynøñ Terjed'') refers to naturally evolved vernacular descendants of Classical ~~Naeng~~, ~~whereas "Dămea" (''Dymeeib'' or ''łynøñ Dymee'') refers to either [[Classical Naeng]] or (Revived) Modern [[Naeng]]. Some Trician languages such~~ as [[Clofabosin]] only use "Dămea" (''dameserotin'') for Modern Naeng and use "Tergetian" (''tergetoserotin'') for the naturally evolved clade rooted in CWdm. [[Netagin]] uses ''Qašenin'' ("Ashanian") for Classical Naeng, ''Ne{{ng}}in'' for Modern Naeng, and ''Tyrgetin'' for Tergetian vernaculars.		In [[Eevo]], "'''Tergetian languages'''" (''Terjedib'' or ''łynøñ Terjed'') refers to naturally evolved vernacular descendants of Classical Tseer. This is misleading, as

	~~Some Tergetian languages are:~~
	* [[Pradiul]]
	* [[Trây]]
	* [[Sătmașian]]

	~~Among these, the most widely spoken is [[Pradiul]].~~

	== Common features ==		== Common features ==

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	== Common features ==		== Common features ==
	* AuxVOS, with V a verbal noun (from topic final word order in CWdm)		* AuxVOS, with V a verbal noun (from topic final word order in CWdm)
	* Verbal nouns treated ergatively like in Irish ("my love to/by-him" means "his love for me") [~~this should be~~ a Standard Average Talman feature, opposite of SAE or Hebrew/JBA]		* Verbal nouns treated ergatively like in Irish ("my love to/by-him" means "his love for me") [a Standard Average Talman feature, opposite of SAE or Hebrew/JBA]
	* Large but closed class of auxiliaries, e.g. for tense marking, or things like "marbeh lisloach" 'forgives often' (shared to some extent by Anbirese)		* Large but closed class of auxiliaries, e.g. for tense marking, or things like "marbeh lisloach" 'forgives often' (shared to some extent by Anbirese)
	* As in Modern Tseer, marks pluractionality by pluralizing the verbal noun		* As in Modern Tseer, marks pluractionality by pluralizing the verbal noun

IlL at 05:53, 29 March 2022

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	In [[Eevo]], "'''Tergetian languages'''" (''Terjedib'' or ''łynøñ Terjed'') refers to naturally evolved vernacular descendants of Classical ~~Windermere~~, whereas "~~Windermere~~" (''Dymeeib'' or ''łynøñ Dymee'') refers to either [[Classical ~~Windermere~~]] or (Revived) Modern [[~~Windermere~~]]. Some Trician languages such as [[Clofabosin]] only use "~~Windermere~~" (''dameserotin'') for Modern ~~Windermere~~ and use "Tergetian" (''tergetoserotin'') for the naturally evolved clade rooted in CWdm. [[Netagin]] uses ''Qašenin'' ("Ashanian") for Classical ~~Windermere~~, ''~~Nengin~~'' for Modern ~~Windermere~~, and ''Tyrgetin'' for Tergetian vernaculars.		In [[Eevo]], "'''Tergetian languages'''" (''Terjedib'' or ''łynøñ Terjed'') refers to naturally evolved vernacular descendants of Classical Naeng, whereas "Dămea" (''Dymeeib'' or ''łynøñ Dymee'') refers to either [[Classical Naeng]] or (Revived) Modern [[Naeng]]. Some Trician languages such as [[Clofabosin]] only use "Dămea" (''dameserotin'') for Modern Naeng and use "Tergetian" (''tergetoserotin'') for the naturally evolved clade rooted in CWdm. [[Netagin]] uses ''Qašenin'' ("Ashanian") for Classical Naeng, ''Ne{{ng}}in'' for Modern Naeng, and ''Tyrgetin'' for Tergetian vernaculars.

	Some Tergetian languages are:		Some Tergetian languages are:
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	* [[Trây]]		* [[Trây]]
	* [[Sătmașian]]		* [[Sătmașian]]
	* [[Verse:Irta/Crackfic/Yengsüc Nengscăy\|Yengsüc Nengscăy]] (crackfic Tricin; non-canon)

	Among these, the most widely spoken is [[Pradiul]].		Among these, the most widely spoken is [[Pradiul]].

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	* [[Sătmașian]]		* [[Sătmașian]]
	* [[Verse:Irta/Crackfic/Yengsüc Nengscăy\|Yengsüc Nengscăy]] (crackfic Tricin; non-canon)		* [[Verse:Irta/Crackfic/Yengsüc Nengscăy\|Yengsüc Nengscăy]] (crackfic Tricin; non-canon)

			Among these, the most widely spoken is [[Pradiul]].

	== Common features ==		== Common features ==

IlL at 22:27, 12 January 2022

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	In [[Eevo]], "'''Tergetian languages'''" (''Terjedib'' or ''łynøñ Terjed'') refers to naturally evolved vernacular descendants of Classical Windermere, whereas "Windermere" (''Dymeeib'' or ''łynøñ Dymee'') refers to either [[Classical Windermere]] or (Revived) Modern [[Windermere]]. Some Trician languages such as [[Clofabosin]] only use "Windermere" (''dameserotin'') for Modern Windermere and use "Tergetian" (''tergetoserotin'') for the naturally evolved clade rooted in CWdm. [[Netagin]] uses ''Qašenin'' ("Ashanian") for Classical Windermere, ''~~Dameaqin~~'' for Modern Windermere, and ''Tyrgetin'' for Tergetian vernaculars.		In [[Eevo]], "'''Tergetian languages'''" (''Terjedib'' or ''łynøñ Terjed'') refers to naturally evolved vernacular descendants of Classical Windermere, whereas "Windermere" (''Dymeeib'' or ''łynøñ Dymee'') refers to either [[Classical Windermere]] or (Revived) Modern [[Windermere]]. Some Trician languages such as [[Clofabosin]] only use "Windermere" (''dameserotin'') for Modern Windermere and use "Tergetian" (''tergetoserotin'') for the naturally evolved clade rooted in CWdm. [[Netagin]] uses ''Qašenin'' ("Ashanian") for Classical Windermere, ''Nengin'' for Modern Windermere, and ''Tyrgetin'' for Tergetian vernaculars.

	Some Tergetian languages are:		Some Tergetian languages are:
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	* [[Sătmașian]]		* [[Sătmașian]]
	* [[Verse:Irta/Crackfic/Yengsüc Nengscăy\|Yengsüc Nengscăy]] (crackfic Tricin; non-canon)		* [[Verse:Irta/Crackfic/Yengsüc Nengscăy\|Yengsüc Nengscăy]] (crackfic Tricin; non-canon)

	== Common features ==		== Common features ==
	* AuxVOS, with V a verbal noun (from topic final word order in CWdm)		* AuxVOS, with V a verbal noun (from topic final word order in CWdm)

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	== Common features ==		== Common features ==
	* AuxVOS, with V a verbal noun (from topic final word order in CWdm)		* AuxVOS, with V a verbal noun (from topic final word order in CWdm)
	* Verbal nouns treated ergatively like in Irish ("my love to/by-him" means "his love for me") [this should be a Standard Average Talman feature, opposite of SAE or Hebrew]		* Verbal nouns treated ergatively like in Irish ("my love to/by-him" means "his love for me") [this should be a Standard Average Talman feature, opposite of SAE or Hebrew/JBA]
	* Large but closed class of auxiliaries, e.g. for tense marking, or things like "marbeh lisloach" 'forgives often' (shared to some extent by Anbirese)		* Large but closed class of auxiliaries, e.g. for tense marking, or things like "marbeh lisloach" 'forgives often' (shared to some extent by Anbirese)
	* As in Modern Tseer, marks pluractionality by pluralizing the verbal noun		* As in Modern Tseer, marks pluractionality by pluralizing the verbal noun

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	* AuxVOS, with V a verbal noun (from topic final word order in CWdm)		* AuxVOS, with V a verbal noun (from topic final word order in CWdm)
	* Verbal nouns treated ergatively like in Irish ("my love to/by-him" means "his love for me") [this should be a Standard Average Talman feature, opposite of SAE or Hebrew]		* Verbal nouns treated ergatively like in Irish ("my love to/by-him" means "his love for me") [this should be a Standard Average Talman feature, opposite of SAE or Hebrew]
	* Large but closed class of auxiliaries, e.g. for tense marking, or things like "marbeh lisloach" 'forgives often' (shared by Anbirese)		* Large but closed class of auxiliaries, e.g. for tense marking, or things like "marbeh lisloach" 'forgives often' (shared to some extent by Anbirese)
	* As in Modern Tseer, marks pluractionality by pluralizing the verbal noun		* As in Modern Tseer, marks pluractionality by pluralizing the verbal noun
	* always using im- or iN- for plurals (this got into Modern Windermere)		* always using im- or iN- for plurals (this got into Modern Windermere)

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Common features

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	* AuxVOS, with V a verbal noun (from topic final word order in CWdm)		* AuxVOS, with V a verbal noun (from topic final word order in CWdm)
	* Verbal nouns treated ergatively like in Irish ("my love to/by-him" means "his love for me") [this should be a Standard Average Talman feature, opposite of SAE or Hebrew]		* Verbal nouns treated ergatively like in Irish ("my love to/by-him" means "his love for me") [this should be a Standard Average Talman feature, opposite of SAE or Hebrew]
	* ~~Lots~~ of auxiliaries, e.g. for tense marking, or things like "marbeh lisloach" 'forgives often' (shared by Anbirese)		* Large but closed class of auxiliaries, e.g. for tense marking, or things like "marbeh lisloach" 'forgives often' (shared by Anbirese)
	* As in Modern Tseer, marks pluractionality by pluralizing the verbal noun		* As in Modern Tseer, marks pluractionality by pluralizing the verbal noun
	* always using im- or iN- for plurals (this got into Modern Windermere)		* always using im- or iN- for plurals (this got into Modern Windermere)
	* construct state marked by a reflex of the CWdm 3sg.m possessive pronoun ''in''		* construct state marked by a reflex of the CWdm 3sg.m possessive pronoun ''in''
			* Verb tenses work a lot like like in Jewish Babylonian Aramaic or An Yidis
			** "in VN" or "on VN" for imperfective aspect unmarked for tense
			** "after VN" for perfective aspect
			** an auxiliary can be used to mark tense, which is relative to conjunctions like "before": "before (future aux)", "after (past aux)"