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===Rimes===
===Rimes===
<poem>
(baxter) a, wa, ja, jwa > a, å, ja, jå?
(baxter) a, wa, ja, jwa > a, å, ja, jå?
"i" was ngaX
"i" was ngaX
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yes
yes
actually a, å, ia, iå (i = palatalization)
actually a, å, ia, iå (i = palatalization)
ae, wae, jae > ä, œ, iä (ä = /ε/)
ae, wae, jae > æ, œ,
u, jo, ju > u, , iu
u, jo, ju > u, , iu
(all this assumes the syllable is initial and thus stressed, perhaps there's reduction in unstressed syllables)
(all this assumes the syllable is initial and thus stressed, perhaps there's reduction in unstressed syllables)


what's ø?
as in myuftseezh?
(that's what the <iø> combination makes me think of 😀 )
some kind of front rounded vowel
maybe /œ/
-j final codas: óigh bhféigh, there's a shitton of them
-j final codas: óigh bhféigh, there's a shitton of them


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so is there a vowel split based on tone?
so is there a vowel split based on tone?
ajH and aejH only occur with H
ajH and aejH only occur with H
eaj, aejH > äj
eaj, aejH > æj


ä = finnish ä?
æ = finnish æ?
could be
could be
weaj, waejH > öj
weaj, waejH > œj
jejH, jiejH, jwejH, jwiejH might have the same outcome as je, jie, jwe, jwie
jejH, jiejH, jwejH, jwiejH might have the same outcome as je, jie, jwe, jwie
those finals with -ji- are called chongniu finals
those finals with -ji- are called chongniu finals
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or they could be different
or they could be different
i'll treat jiej like jij and jwiej like jwij
i'll treat jiej like jij and jwiej like jwij
je(j),  jwe(j) > ie, iüö?
je(j),  jwe(j) > /'ie, '/
or maybe /'ie, 'üö/
ej, wej > /ie, yø/
ej, wej > /ie, yø/
or maybe ie and üö should be /e, ø/
or maybe ie and üœ should be /e, ø/
joj, jwoj > /ej, øj/
joj, jwoj > /ej, øj/


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maube all those y's shd really be uj's
maube all those y's shd really be uj's
-jew > -y'hudi 😀
-jew > -y'hudi 😀
aw, aew, jew, jiew, ew, uw, juw, jiw > /aw, äw, 'aw, 'ew, äw, u, 'u, ew/
aw, aew, jew, jiew, ew, uw, juw, jiw > /aw, æw, 'aw, 'ew, æw, u, 'u, ew/


:D
:D
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-ium 😀
-ium 😀
an, wan, aen, waen, ean, wean > an, ån, än, ön, en, øn
an, wan, aen, waen, ean, wean > an, ån, æn, œn, en, øn


ann, uann, ainn, uainn, eann, uainn
ann, uann, ainn, uainn, eann, uainn
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y = hard /i/
y = hard /i/


ngá = I in literal irishy sinitic
:D
ak, wak, jak, jwak > ak, åk, iak, iåk
ak, wak, jak, jwak > ak, åk, iak, iåk
aewk > ?
aewk > ?
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that works
that works
ok, wok, ik, wik > ok, uk, ik, uk
ok, wok, ik, wik > ok, uk, ik, uk
aek, waek, eak, waek > äk, ök, äk, ök
aek, waek, eak, waek > æk, œk, æk, œk
jaek, jwaek > iäk, iök
jaek, jwaek > iæk, iœk
jek jwek ek wek > iek iøk ek øk
jek jwek ek wek > iek iøk ek øk
uwk owk juwk jowk > uk ok iuk iok
uwk owk juwk jowk > uk ok iuk iok
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actually
actually
å will also merge to o
å will also merge to o
</poem>


===Tonality===
===Tonality===

Revision as of 23:24, 14 March 2017

Judeo-Chinese is a descendant of Middle Chinese adopted by Chinese Jews in Verse:Tumhan, written in a version of the Hebrew alphabet. Like other Chinese varieties, it is a tonal language and is unintelligible to speakers of other Chinese lects.

Phonology

Initials

Consonant phonemes
Labial Dental Retroflex Velar Laryngeal
broad slender broad slender slender broad
Nasal n̪ˠ ŋʲ ŋ
Stop plain t̪ˠ k ʔ
aspirated pˠʰ pʲʰ t̪ˠʰ tʲʰ kʲʰ
voiced d̪ˠ ɟ g
Affricate plain t̪sˠ tsʲ
aspirated t̪sˠʰ tsʲʰ tʂʰ
voiced d̪zˠ dzʲ
Fricative voiceless ʂ x h
voiced ɣʲ ɣ
Approximant l̪ˠ ɻ j

Rimes

(baxter) a, wa, ja, jwa > a, å, ja, jå?
"i" was ngaX

yes
actually a, å, ia, iå (i = palatalization)
ae, wae, jae > æ, œ, iæ
u, jo, ju > u, iœ, iu
(all this assumes the syllable is initial and thus stressed, perhaps there's reduction in unstressed syllables)

-j final codas: óigh bhféigh, there's a shitton of them

D
oj, ajH > aj
woj, wajH > åj

so is there a vowel split based on tone?
ajH and aejH only occur with H
eaj, aejH > æj

æ = finnish æ?
could be
weaj, waejH > œj
jejH, jiejH, jwejH, jwiejH might have the same outcome as je, jie, jwe, jwie
those finals with -ji- are called chongniu finals
i could merge jiej completely with jej like mandarin does
or they could be different
i'll treat jiej like jij and jwiej like jwij
je(j), jwe(j) > /'ie, 'yø/
ej, wej > /ie, yø/
or maybe ie and üœ should be /e, ø/
joj, jwoj > /ej, øj/

here's something CRAZY
a literally-read irish sinolang
with /aoi/ as a rime
ij, jij, wij, jwij > /i, 'i, y, 'y/
i > /i/
j+j, jw+j > /'i, 'y/
maube all those y's shd really be uj's
-jew > -y'hudi 😀
aw, aew, jew, jiew, ew, uw, juw, jiw > /aw, æw, 'aw, 'ew, æw, u, 'u, ew/

D
i like -y'hudi
actually sorry
aw, aw, iaw, iew, ew, u, iu, iew
om, am, eam, aem, jem, jiem, jaem, jom, em, im, jim
> um, om, am, am, iem, im, iam, iom, ium, em, im, jim

looks good
(similarly for -p rimes)

-ium 😀
an, wan, aen, waen, ean, wean > an, ån, æn, œn, en, øn

ann, uann, ainn, uainn, eann, uainn
in a literal irish version
jen, jwen, jon, jwon > ien, iøn, ion, iun
en, wen, on, won > en, øn, on, un
in, jin, win, jwin, j+n, jun > in, yn, un, iun, in, iun
y = hard /i/

ak, wak, jak, jwak > ak, åk, iak, iåk
aewk > ?

aoigh
auk?

that works
ok, wok, ik, wik > ok, uk, ik, uk
aek, waek, eak, waek > æk, œk, æk, œk
jaek, jwaek > iæk, iœk
jek jwek ek wek > iek iøk ek øk
uwk owk juwk jowk > uk ok iuk iok
i might do something with œ and ø
make them central vowels
maybe merge them to ə
or œ > a, ø > ə

œ > a is interesting
i have a æ e i o u ə in the end - like Rõktiap 😀
actually
å will also merge to o

Tonality

Orthography

Grammar