User:H. H. P. M. P. Cole/Sketchbook

Technoquintlan

Premise: Crackfic Earth-Tricin (the old one, we are living in a bad draft!), Inthar and Schngellstein were the first ones to know of the other worlds and so they compiled information on their languages and passed it off as their own, and six conworlders (Cole, Athitrydhen, Inthar, Plu, Balang, and Schngellstein) create a far-future version of the world they're living in

Etymology: Quintlanic + techno(logy) + Tenochtitlan

Spatial reach

Aim for planets close to Earth and Tricin, as well as some moons

• Earth
• Moon (satellite)
• Mars

(did some digging up and found Clofabosin planets' names, thanks!)

• Tricin
• Porfin (satellite)
• Olatin
• Fricadin

Sketches

• Neu-Europa (Official languages: English, German, French, Akademiesprache, Riemannic)
  • New United Kingdom
  • Norwegian Northern Polar Territory
  • Swedish Southern Polar Territory
  • Kardän
  • Neues Deutsches Reich
  • Nouvelle République Française
  • Uuden Suomen Tasavalta
  • Usiletalstaten

Main languages

Colloquial languages

There are over 20,000 colloquial languages spoken in Technoquintlan. The most spoken is ??? followed by ???. Scellan lost its status as a lingua franca very quickly, at about fT 2350, and English and Clofabosin lose their status as lingua francas at around fT 2700.

• Nahuatl (main Earth language)
• Naquian (main Tricin language)
• Anloclofaboserotin
  • Madison Tyndall Nibuterol (Medisån Tindol Nibuterol), the new Ativan
  • Six vowels: a e i o u å /a ɛ i ɔ u ə/
  • this seriously needs to be written in Deseret and be the official language of all Mormons (please no I'm not Mormon)
• fT 2700 colloquial Hlou

Academic languages

The two main academic languages of Technoquintlan are:

• Wug Nlab (pure mathematicians, physicists, programmers, essentially Future Hlou)
• Akademiesprache (applied mathematicians, chemists, biologists, other applied fields, essentially Germano-Greek)

They were created in the period between fT 2400-2550 (approx. Earth 2100-2250) and they were somehow adopted as lingua francas within the academic community. An experiment was created to attempt to have a child with Wug Nlab as his native language. Sadly the experiment didn't work and he learned Hlou instead. However, there are many Akademiesprache native speakers in Kardän, Neu-Europa.

Musical cultures

Most, if not all, major Terran and Trician musical cultures were preserved:

• Western European (12edo diatonic)
• Sinitic (12edo pentatonic/infradiatonic (Yasser))
• Clofabian (meantone/12edo and 7edo)
• Indian (roughly 5-limit JI)
• Talman-Hlou (tonality diamond scales)
• Arab (roughly 24edo, heptamaqamic)
• Bjeheondian (roughly 24edo, pentamaqamic)

However, other musical cultures were created due to either prolonged contact or prolonged isolation of Terran and/or Trician groups.

Aim for a Technoquintlan#UnXen

EDO-based

• Clofabo-Dutch (31edo) (basically meantone + 3L 4s + harmonic scale from 7-14 + corresponding subharmonic scale, nothing too adventurous)
  • Main pitched instruments (all traditionally fully mechanical, though electronic versions are common):
    • focefluin or Fokker-orgel (Fokker organ)
    • focepressin or Fokker-klavecimbel (Fokker harpsichord)
    • focepressofluin or Fokker-klaveorgel (technically a misnomer, Fokker claviorganum)
  • Uses Fokker layout for 31edo and Western staff notation
  • Main unpitched instruments: pictin of course
  • Borrows inspiration from Baroque music as well as traditional Clofab folk music (uses 3L 4s as an approximation to the acen's 7-note scale)
  • Western musical forms

RT-based

• Pludian (some extended hemipyth temperament)
  • the people who speak Wug Nlab and have enough balls to play in this temperament seriously are smarter than most of us, including me, a mere messenger

Miscellaneous

Arabo-Bjeheondo-Finnish hemipyth tradition (insert hemipyth nonsense here probably)

Silly language family trees

• Platonic languages
  • Simplicial languages
  • Hypercubic languages
  • Orthoplician languages
  • Pentagonal languages
    • Dodecahedral
      • Hundachoral
    • Icosahedral
      • Kinexscorchoral
  • Octaplicial (highly conservative isolate in the Platonic language family)

Vowel triangle nonsense

i y ɯ u
 e ø o     ə
  ɛ ɔ
   a

Neologisms/already existing words that are actually made up of words from different languages

• Vandermonde (lit. of the world) - uses Dutch, German, French
• Platterra (I like the spelling Platerra more despite removing one 't' from Platt) (lit. flat earth) - uses German, Latin

North Germanic Old Chinese phonology

• Initials: m n ŋ <nk> ŋw <nkw> p t ts k kw b d dz g gw f v ð s z ʃ <sk> ç <ch> w r l j h
• Medials: r j
• Nuclei: a æ e i o ɔ <å> ø u y ie yø oy <eu> aj <ai> aw <au> uo
• Codas: j w l m n ŋ <nk> p t k ð

(C)(C)V(C) structure

Gibberish

(Credit partially to Praveen for the second verse, I corrupted it a bit becaise I couldn't remember the original)

ðyt prot skak tryl
sket vråm hæp kyl
nkak skrið el traum
ðin tsjaink breut wan dzyl

kup brå konk kaup
ða skryp skrank braup
gwra gwrim røð grøð
ðå zrænk gwæð brønk sklaup

Trician music ideas

• A balalaika-like instrument in Zlikezhwws?
• Zliceans could have a 7edo tradition (with acen included!), borrowed by the Clofabians

Schlaub poetry

Ndleiß dzah xäub
Laub dzah taub
zied an xan,
bluß dzah Schlaub

Turning Wiebian into Riemannic gib

• macrons on stressed syllables
• write everything phonetically
• replace clicks with dental fricatives

Orthographical abuse

Schlaub:

Standard:        Tlad Hei drlah Mbauß, xan schnuh zied nraug, xob Ndzäu beis schraus Ihn Vug, Ngiß Tsahn we jaud schrieb mbug.
Pinyin spoob:    Tlà hăi drlah mbăúng, xǎ sjuh zǜ nrăuh, xō nzăun băí shăú ǐh vuh, ngíng tsǎn we jăù shǖ mbuh.
Riemannic spoob: tlad hə̄i drlah mbəūt, σan hnūh zyd nrəūk, σob ndzəūl bəis σjəūs in vūk, ngit tsān we jəūd σjym mbūk.

Clofabosin:

Standard: cefditoren rupalimab, ziruvenin conalimab, apizanol vactolepin, boracenol seprabuctan
Cyrillic: кефдиторен рупалимаб, зирувенин коналимаб, апизанол вактолепин, боракенол сепрабуктан
Greek:    κεφντιτωρεν ρουπαλιμαμπ, ζιρουβενιν κωναλιμαμπ, απιζανωλ βακτωλεπιν, μπωρακενωλ σεπραμπουκταν

Why I am uninterested in creating a priori languages (in general)

The exact reason why I am uninterested in creating a priori languages is because that they are just that. A priori. A word could mean absolutely anything in an a priori conlang. If you take the same gibberish passage, it can mean two completely different things, in two completely different a priori 'languages', even if they have the same phonology and syntax. With a posteriori you at least have a base (or multiple bases) for your language. Mathematical/philosophical languages are an exception for me. In my mind, they are 'a posteriori' in some sense - the 'words' are based off some mathematical system!

Still, feel free to contest my opinion.

Talma-Zlïkezhẅẅs-Clofabolocin-Spoobland hypothesis

Same as Talma-Spoobland, except that the Zlïke were trading with the Clofabians in addition to the Hlou, and that the ẅ letter, which is completely redundant in Zlïke, was chosen because of its resemblance to a spoob (due to Hlou-Zlïke trading and Gloobic Zlïkezhẅẅs)

Earth#Spoob

Premise:

Schngellstein: ...Anyway, I just want to hear your comments on my conworld called Earth.

Plu: Remove IE.

Schngellstein: ...Why? I spent years working on IE! YEARS! I COULD HAVE MADE IT THE ONLY LANGUAGE FAMILY OF EARTH BUT LISTEN, LISTEN, YOU FOOLS...

(Prafin tries to calm Schngellstein down.)

Prafin: Yeah, Plu's right. Remove IE.

Schngellstein: YOU ARE ALL STUPID! (insert incoherent ranting)

Plu: (shouting) THE MAJOR LANGUAGES OF EARTH SHOULD BE HMONG, SWAHILI, AND ARABIC.

Prafin: Plu, you forgot Hebrew and Aramaic. Were you writing notes?

Plu: I'm sorry, I was too focused on this...

(Plu hands a piece of paper to Schngellstein. He reads the paper out loud.)

Schngellstein: Hmong... Europe... Asia... Wait, that's just Tricin all over again! You can't just copy our world and make it mine!

Plu: But it worked for us here in Tricin, it will work on Earth too.

Ideas for Hlou-Shum

• DO NOT USE SPOOB ORTHOGRAPHIES
• Use generalized IE sound change laws for sound changes
• Sino-Tibetan sound changes too?
• Hlou's old -l tone was glottal descending